Leaders Learning From Leaders
Leaders Learning from Leaders is an engaging and insightful educational leadership podcast designed exclusively for leaders in the field of education. This dynamic podcast is created by seasoned leaders for leaders, providing a valuable platform to exchange ideas, share effective strategies, and explore the stories of education leadership challenges and success. Each episode features distinguished guests, including experienced education leaders and superintendents, who generously impart their knowledge and first-hand experiences. Through thought-provoking discussions and inspiring stories, this podcast equips education leaders with practical tools, innovative approaches, and invaluable insights to thrive in their roles. Whether seeking fresh perspectives, expert advice, or inspiration to transform your leadership journey, Leaders Learning from Leaders is the go-to resource for educational leaders striving to continue learning and growing while positively impacting the communities they serve.
Episodes

Thursday Mar 13, 2025
A Conversation with Dr. Deborah Wortham, Education Leader and Author
Thursday Mar 13, 2025
Thursday Mar 13, 2025
About Dr. Deborah Wortham
Dr. Deborah L. Wortham is a nationally recognized educator, author, and speaker with a distinguished career in educational leadership. A Chicago native, she has served as superintendent in multiple school districts, including Roosevelt Union Free School District, where she led the transition from state takeover to good standing. She was also the first African American female superintendent of East Ramapo Central School District, where all K-8 schools achieved good standing.
Dr. Wortham holds a Doctorate in Educational Leadership from Nova Southeastern University, a Master’s in Reading from Morgan State University, and a Bachelor’s in Elementary Education from the University of Wisconsin. She is a best-selling co-author of STEM Century: It Takes a Village to Raise a 21st-Century Graduate and the author of Setting the Atmosphere: Beliefs, Practices, and Protocols for Faith-Filled Leaders, which provides guidance for educators on fostering success-driven school cultures.
Her leadership has earned her numerous accolades, including the AASA Women in Leadership Award (2024) and recognition as one of New York State's Top 100 Most Influential Educators. Dr. Wortham remains active in national organizations, including Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority and Rotary International, continuing her mission to inspire and empower educational leaders.
Podcast Summary
In this episode of Leaders Learning from Leaders, Dr. Deborah Wortham, a distinguished educator and author, shares insights from her extensive career in transforming educational institutions. Having served as superintendent in multiple districts, including leading Roosevelt Union Free School District from state takeover to good standing, Dr. Wortham discusses the power of collaboration, leadership, and faith-filled education.
Dr. Wortham emphasizes how early experiences as a teacher shaped her approach to leadership, moving from isolation to embracing teamwork. She discusses her belief in John Maxwell’s Law of Significance—that one is too small a number to achieve greatness—highlighting how collaboration among educators, parents, and administrators fosters educational success.
A key focus of the conversation is her transformative work at Roosevelt Union Free School District, where she reversed a culture of low expectations and instilled a belief in excellence. By implementing systems rooted in growth mindset and efficacy, she shifted attitudes and improved student performance, ultimately raising the graduation rate from 68% to 86%. She describes the impact of a shared belief in success, using the mantra “Roosevelt Rising” as a rallying call for change.
Dr. Wortham also elaborates on her book, Setting the Atmosphere: Beliefs, Practices, and Protocols for Faith-Filled Leaders. She explains how educational leadership is not just about implementing strategies but about building confidence and fostering an environment where teachers and students believe in their potential.
She concludes with advice for new superintendents: understanding one’s purpose, or “knowing your why,” is crucial for making a meaningful impact. Dr. Wortham shares a personal story about her sister’s influence, illustrating how a deep sense of purpose drives her commitment to education.
Main Topics Covered
The Importance of CollaborationWortham discusses moving from isolation as a teacher to embracing collaboration as a superintendent. She highlights how teamwork among educators, parents, and students leads to greater success in schools.
Transforming Roosevelt Union Free School DistrictShe shares her experience leading Roosevelt from state takeover to good standing by reversing a culture of low expectations, implementing belief systems, and instilling confidence through mantras like “Roosevelt Rising.”
Growth Mindset and Efficacy in LeadershipWortham emphasizes the power of growth mindset and self-efficacy, advocating for belief systems that help students and educators see their potential and commit to continuous improvement.
Faith-Filled LeadershipIn her book, Setting the Atmosphere, she explores the role of faith and confidence in leadership. She describes how fostering belief in educators and students transforms school culture and leads to achievement.
Advice for New SuperintendentsWortham advises education leaders to “know their why,” sharing a personal story of how her sister’s passing gave her a lifelong commitment to excellence in education.
Parental and Community EngagementShe highlights the importance of engaging parents as partners in education, ensuring they feel part of a winning team through communication strategies and community involvement.
Cultural belief is the catalyst for educational transformation—when those responsible for educating believe in a vision, and those being educated contribute to achieving that vision, success is no longer just a possibility, but a certainty.

Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
About Superintendent Aníbal Soler, Jr.
Anibal Soler, Jr. is a seasoned education leader with over 20 years of experience, currently serving as superintendent of Yonkers Public Schools since May 1, 2024. He has a strong track record in urban districts, having previously led Schenectady and Batavia City School Districts. In Schenectady, he implemented a transformative community schools initiative, enhancing student access to health and social services. In Batavia, he secured the district’s first My Brother’s Keeper grant and introduced a pioneering policy on Equity, Inclusivity, and Diversity in Education.
As associate superintendent in Buffalo, he spearheaded the Strong Community Schools strategy, revitalizing 21 schools and improving outcomes for 11,000 students. His leadership also ensured successful budget management and critical labor agreements while maintaining educational quality without tax increases.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, Mr. Soler led a strategic reopening plan, prioritizing in-person instruction for vulnerable students, without layoffs. He holds degrees from Daemen College, Nazareth College, and St. John Fisher College and is pursuing a doctorate at Manhattanville College.
Married with four children, Mr. Soler is dedicated to fostering academic excellence and community collaboration in Yonkers. His unanimous appointment reflects confidence in his ability to elevate the district’s educational landscape.
Podcast Summary
In this episode of Leaders Learning from Leaders, host Steve Barkley speaks with Anibal Soler, the superintendent of Yonkers Public Schools. Superintendent Soler shares insights into his leadership journey, the unique challenges and opportunities in urban school systems, and the role of community engagement in education.
Superintendent Soler, who began as an art teacher, describes how his artistic background has influenced his leadership approach, enabling him to visualize strategic goals and communicate them effectively. He highlights his experience in various leadership roles, including his time in Buffalo, Batavia, and Schenectady, emphasizing the importance of learning from talented colleagues and adapting best practices to different contexts.
One of the key themes discussed is the concept of Yonkers Magic, a phrase coined to encapsulate the resilience and success of the Yonkers school community. Despite challenges such as poverty and language barriers, the district boasts a high graduation rate and strong community engagement. Superintendent Soler attributes this success to collaborative efforts, a clear vision, and a culture of continuous improvement.
The conversation also touches on the importance of mentorship and professional networks in developing future education leaders, particularly in urban settings. Superintendent Soler stresses the need for equitable access to leadership opportunities and the value of representation in decision-making roles. He encourages school leaders to embrace failure as a learning tool, remain adaptable, and leverage networks for support and inspiration.
Superintendent Soler concludes with a call for ongoing professional learning and risk-taking in leadership, advocating for transparency and storytelling to build trust and engagement within the school community.
Main Topics Covered
Yonkers Public Schools Overview
Yonkers is the third-largest school district in New York, serving 24,000 students, with a predominantly Latino and African-American population.
The district faces urban education challenges but maintains high graduation rates.
The Role of an Artistic Background in Leadership
Soler’s experience as an art teacher has shaped his ability to visualize strategic goals and communicate effectively.
He emphasizes creativity, problem-solving, and seeing multiple perspectives as essential leadership skills.
Lessons from Previous Leadership Roles
Soler discusses his tenure in Buffalo, Batavia, and Schenectady, highlighting the importance of learning from talented peers and adapting strategies to different district sizes and needs.
He emphasizes best practices like high-quality instruction, community engagement, and restorative practices.
The Concept of Yonkers Magic
A community-driven approach to overcoming challenges and achieving success.
The importance of rallying behind a shared vision and collective effort.
Building Leadership and Mentorship Networks
Soler underscores the need for mentorship, equitable access to leadership roles, and professional collaboration.
He advocates for identifying and supporting talent beyond traditional networks.
Vision, Strategic Planning, and Storytelling
The importance of setting a clear strategic vision and involving the community in its development.
Using storytelling and documentation to highlight successes and inspire engagement.
Risk-Taking and Continuous Learning
Soler encourages leaders to embrace failure as part of growth.
The necessity of professional learning, networking, and adapting to change.
Conclusion:Soler’s insights reinforce the importance of community, adaptability, and continuous learning in educational leadership, demonstrating that true success is a collective effort driven by vision and commitment.

Thursday Dec 19, 2024
A Panel Discussion on School Transformation
Thursday Dec 19, 2024
Thursday Dec 19, 2024
Dr. Jim Lloyd, Superintendent of Olmsted Falls City School District, Ohio
Dr. Steve McCammon, President and CEO of the Schlechty Center and Executive Director of the National Superintendents Roundtable
George G. Thompson, former President and current Director of Strategic Initiatives for the Schlechty Center
About the Panel
Dr. Jim Lloyd has served as superintendent of Olmsted Falls School District in Ohio since August 2013, collaborating with staff, parents, and the community to ensure the district's success. Committed to preparing students for a fast-changing, digital, and global future, he champions the district's "Triple A" philosophy, which emphasizes academic, artistic, and athletic development. Dr. Lloyd's leadership focuses on fostering the growth of the whole child and celebrating student achievements in both academic and extracurricular activities. Before becoming superintendent, Dr. Lloyd spent six years as assistant superintendent in Olmsted Falls and nine years as director of pupil services for Westlake City Schools. His career began as a school psychologist in Olmsted Falls. Dr. Lloyd holds psychology and educational leadership degrees and is an adjunct professor at Baldwin-Wallace University.
Dr. Steve McCammon is the president and CEO of the Schlechty Center, where he leads initiatives to inspire continuous innovation in education. Since joining in 2013, he has collaborated with schools, school boards, and educational organizations to promote engagement-focused practices. A former superintendent of the Fife School District in Washington, Steve guided the district to become a leader in the Schlechty Center's Standard-Bearer School District Network. His earlier roles included principal of Fife High School, 1992 Florida Teacher of the Year, and senior associate at the Florida Department of Education, where he supported low-performing schools. Steve worked closely with the Center's founder, Dr. Phillip Schlechty, to expand its impact, particularly in Ohio, realizing Phil's vision for regional school district networks. With deep expertise in fostering learning organizations, Steve remains dedicated to advancing transformative educational practices.
George G. Thompson is the former President and current Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Schlechty Center. Since joining in 1995, he has been pivotal in developing key initiatives like the Superintendents Leadership Network and the Standard-Bearer School District Network, working closely with the Center's founder, Phillip Schlechty. George has contributed significantly to creating frameworks and intellectual resources that advance engagement and transformation in education. Before joining the Schlechty Center, George spent 19 years in Gwinnett County Public Schools, serving as superintendent, administrative assistant to the superintendent, and principal at both elementary and high school levels. Earlier, he worked as a teacher and community school director in Atlanta Public Schools. Currently, George focuses on building strategic alliances to enhance student outcomes and promote transformative leadership.
Podcast Summary
This episode of Leaders Learning from Leaders focuses on transformative leadership in education, with guests from the Schlechty Center—a nonprofit dedicated to creating engagement-focused schools. Dr. Steve McCammon, George Thompson, and Dr. Jim Lloyd discuss their mission to support school leaders by shifting educational institutions from bureaucratic systems to learning organizations. This involves fostering engagement among students and staff, redefining superintendent roles as moral and intellectual leaders, and emphasizing capacity building across all organizational levels.
Dr. Lloyd shares his experience transforming Olmsted Falls City Schools with the Schlechty Center's support. His district shifted from providing opportunities to empowering students to make an impact, supported by a new accountability system aligned with the Schlechty Center's "system capacity standards." These standards are aspirational, focusing on future readiness, maintaining direction, and acting strategically.
George Thompson introduces the "Pillars of Superintendent Leadership," which are reflective tools for superintendents to assess their roles in trust-building, vision-setting, and community engagement. Dr. McCammon and Dr. Lloyd stress the long-term, systemic changes required to sustain this transformation, emphasizing that transformation is distinct from change—it is about creating something fundamentally new.
The discussion highlights the broader impact of transforming school systems, which can lead to the transformation of communities by attracting residents and educators aligned with the vision. The conversation closes by reiterating the importance of courageous leadership and collaboration among boards, superintendents, and educators.
Main Topics Covered
The Mission of the Schlechty Center - The Schlechty Center supports school leaders in creating engagement-focused schools by providing tools, frameworks, and reflective conversations to transform educational systems into learning organizations.
Superintendent Leadership Pillars - Introduced as reflective and aspirational tools, these pillars guide superintendents in fostering trust, clarifying vision, educating the community, and aligning organizational goals with transformative leadership practices.
Transforming Olmsted Falls City Schools - Dr. Lloyd discusses his district's journey from providing opportunities, to inspiring and empowering students through systemic changes aligned with the Schlechty Center's principles.
Defining Transformation vs. Change - Transformation is framed as creating something entirely new, akin to a caterpillar becoming a butterfly, while change refers to incremental improvements within the existing structure.
Impact on Communities - School system transformation is linked to broader community benefits, such as attracting families and educators who resonate with the vision of empowering students.
Systemic Accountability and Leadership - Dr. Lloyd's integration of the Schlechty Center's standards into superintendent evaluations highlights a commitment to aligning leadership practices with transformative goals.
Challenges and Rewards of Transformative Leadership - Courage, innovation, and long-term commitment are essential for meaningful systemic transformation, with the ultimate reward being improved student engagement and community growth.
This episode explores how transforming schools into learning organizations is a courageous and impactful journey that benefits students, strengthens the community, and enriches the leadership practices within education.

Friday Nov 22, 2024
Friday Nov 22, 2024
About Dr. Edwin M. Quezada
Dr. Edwin M. Quezada has dedicated nearly 35 years to education, holding roles from teacher to superintendent. He is currently the Executive Director of the Philadelphia Academy of School Leaders.
As the former superintendent of Yonkers Public Schools, Dr. Quezada led the district to become New York's highest performing district among the Big Five (New York City, Yonkers, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo), achieving a 90% graduation rate and significantly reducing the dropout rate. He is known for fostering leadership through professional development and creating district-wide cultures of accountability and achievement. His philosophy centers on believing that all children can excel with quality instruction, a supportive community, and caring adults.
Quezada co-chaired Yonkers' My Brother's Keeper Alliance, which the Obama Foundation recognized as a model for improving outcomes for boys and young men of color. He has received numerous awards for his contributions to education and community service. Dr. Quezada also supported the Yonkers Urban Leadership Academy in preparing future urban school leaders and served as president-elect of the New York State Association of Latino Administrators and Superintendents.
Dr. Quezada holds degrees in accounting, school counseling, and educational leadership from Herbert H. Lehman College, Fordham University, and Walden University. In his current role, he focuses on developing school and system leaders to foster environments where all students thrive.
Podcast Summary
In this podcast episode, Steve Barkley interviews Dr. Edwin Quezada, former Superintendent of Yonkers Public Schools and current Executive Director of the Philadelphia Academy of School Leaders. The conversation explores Dr. Quezada's journey, leadership philosophy, and his impact on education systems.
Dr. Quezada emphasizes creating a collaborative culture focused on transparent goals, data-sharing, and active stakeholder engagement. He highlights the importance of aligning central office support with school leaders' needs, including funding and resources, to foster student success.
Dr. Quezada discusses his work with the Academy to develop school leaders through a two-year fellowship program in his current leadership role in Philadelphia. He outlines critical leadership skills for modern principals, such as adaptive leadership, equity-driven practices, and community engagement. He stresses the growing demands on school leaders, particularly in urban settings, due to diverse student needs.
Dr. Quezada underscores the importance of loving and respecting students, building community, and ensuring culturally responsive, high-quality instruction. He concludes by calling on superintendents to serve as champions for their systems and foster collaborative environments that inspire educators and administrators to excel.
Main Topics Covered
Leadership in Yonkers Public Schools
Dr. Quezada reflects on his tenure as superintendent, emphasizing a data-driven, team-oriented approach that raised graduation rates and redefined success in a diverse district.
Central Office and School Collaboration
He describes the essential partnership between school leaders and central office staff, advocating for resource investment and mutual support to enhance educational outcomes.
Role at Philadelphia Academy of School Leaders
Dr. Quezada shares his work with the Academy, including a fellowship program to equip school leaders with skills to address today's educational challenges.
Key Leadership Skills for Principals
He identifies essential skills like adaptive leadership, equity focus, community engagement, and instructional expertise as foundational for effective school leadership.
Unique Challenges in Urban Education
The discussion highlights the intensified demands on urban school leaders due to their student populations' diverse and significant needs.
The Importance of Love and Community in Education
Dr. Quezada emphasizes loving students, respecting their individuality, and creating a nurturing school environment as core elements of effective leadership.
Superintendents as System Champions
He calls for superintendents to act as inspirational figures, foster collaboration, and promote a unified vision for their educational organizations.
Conclusion
This episode compellingly explores transformative leadership in education, underscoring the profound impact of collaboration, equity, and love on student success.

Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
About Dr. Wesley Smith
Dr. Smith is superintendent of the Newport-Mesa Unified School District. His 25 years in California public education include 17 years as a site or district leader and eight years as an educator and student advocate at the state and federal levels.
Dr. Smith served as the executive director of the Association of California School Administrators (ACSA), which is the largest umbrella organization for school leaders in the United States. He previously served as the superintendent of Morgan Hill Unified School District, and superintendent, assistant superintendent, and principal at Cascade Union Elementary School District. He has also served as a high school English, English language development, and Spanish teacher, as well as a football and baseball coach. In addition to Dr. Smith’s K-12 experience, he is currently an adjunct professor in the USC Rossier School of Education.
Known as a strong leader who prioritizes the rights, needs, and safety of all students, Dr. Smith has been successful in narrowing access and achievement gaps, restoring positive working relationships, rebuilding confidence in education systems, and helping students feel seen, heard, and valued.
He obtained his Bachelor of Arts in English from Brigham Young University, Master of Arts from Claremont Graduate School, and Doctorate in Educational Leadership from the University of Southern California.
Podcast Summary
In this podcast episode, Dr. Wesley Smith, superintendent of Newport Mesa Unified School District, discusses his leadership journey and key strategies that have shaped his tenure. The episode begins with an overview of Newport Mesa, a diverse district serving both affluent and underprivileged communities. Dr. Smith highlights the importance of listening as his initial priority when assuming leadership. He emphasizes building a culture of inclusivity, belonging, and student-centered learning, while focusing on climate and culture as foundational elements of success.
A key theme in the discussion is Dr. Smith's "systems approach" to leadership, which ensures that success is deliberate and consistent across all areas of the district. He provides examples of this approach through curricular coherence, professional learning communities, and developing common assessments for teachers. Dr. Smith also underscores the importance of continuous educator learning, believing that enhancing the capacity of adults within the system directly impacts student outcomes. He stresses the need for intentionality and buy-in from educators, ensuring that learning and growth are systemic rather than ad-hoc.
Additionally, Dr. Smith reflects on his time as Executive Director of the Association of California School Administrators, noting the courage required to prioritize students' needs in a system often designed for adult interests. He emphasizes the challenges facing superintendents today, such as navigating political distractions and external pressures while maintaining focus on student achievement.
Main Topics Covered
Leadership in Newport Mesa Unified School DistrictDr. Smith discusses his leadership style, highlighting the importance of listening, inclusivity, and culture building within a diverse district.
Systems Approach to EducationDr. Smith outlines his strategy for implementing consistent success through systemic processes, emphasizing curricular coherence, common assessments, and professional learning communities.
Continuous Learning for EducatorsHe stresses the importance of lifelong learning for educators, ensuring their growth is directly tied to student success through structured professional development.
Courage in LeadershipReflecting on his experience at the state level, Dr. Smith highlights the need for courage in educational leadership, especially when prioritizing students' needs over adult interests.
Challenges for SuperintendentsThe episode addresses modern challenges in school leadership, particularly political distractions and pressures that can divert focus from students' needs.
The podcast concludes with Dr. Smith's belief that leaders must remember their students are always watching, motivating him to bring his best effort daily.

Thursday Jul 25, 2024
Thursday Jul 25, 2024
Dr. Morris is proud to serve as Superintendent of the Olean City School District. She joined the district in July of 2022. A passionate advocate for providing high-quality education for all children, Dr. Morris has spent more than 30 years in education, dedicating her life to ensuring each child graduates from high school ready for college or a career. While pursuing that goal, she worked in varying roles, including science instruction, curriculum and assessment development, and leading work in assessment, accountability, research, and evaluation at the district level.
Before joining Olean, Dr. Morris worked in Buffalo Public Schools and the Rochester City Schools. While in Rochester, she served as Deputy Superintendent of Teaching and Learning and Deputy of Operations and Systems Innovation. Her last role in the Buffalo Public Schools was the Chief Accountability Officer/Chief Information Officer. She began her career as a biology teacher with the Buffalo Public Schools and has also served as Assistant Superintendent of Shared Accountability, Director of Data Analysis, Supervisor of Data Analysis, principal, and assistant principal. She has a strong history of working with community, city, and county organizations and is committed to developing partnerships with the Olean community.
Dr. Morris earned her Doctorate in Educational Leadership and Policy from the University at Buffalo, receiving the prestigious “Thinking Outside the Box” award for her thesis, which studied the implementation of the Annual Professional Performance Review (APPR) in New York State. She earned a master’s degree and Certificate of Advanced Study in Educational Leadership and Policy and a master’s degree in science education from the University at Buffalo. Her bachelor’s degree in biology was earned from Canisius University.
Dr. Morris has also served on various educational committees and boards at the local, regional, state, and national levels. She has served as an adjunct faculty member for several years and has served on various education committees and councils at the local, regional, state, and national levels. Her passion for student advocacy, diversity, and progress ignites everything she does.
Podcast Summary
In this podcast episode, Dr. Genelle Morris, Superintendent of the Olean City School District in New York State, shares insights into her district, her background, and the strategic initiatives she has implemented since taking on her role in July 2022. Dr. Morris brings 30 years of experience from the Buffalo and Rochester school districts, which has equipped her to handle the diverse challenges in her current position.
Dr. Morris discusses the unique characteristics of the Olean City School District, emphasizing its small size yet diverse rural and city aspects. She highlights the importance of her previous experience in larger districts, which has given her a comprehensive understanding of educational systems and the ability to manage multiple responsibilities effectively.
Two main components of the district’s strategic plan are explored: a focus on progressive and enriching learning, and continuous educator learning. Dr. Morris describes the district’s commitment to student achievement, particularly through revising the curriculum and implementing a new ELA curriculum aligned with New York State standards. She underscores the necessity of professional development for teachers to ensure they can deliver high-quality instruction and meet these raised expectations.
Relationships and teamwork are central themes in Dr. Morris’s leadership approach. She emphasizes the importance of strong relationships with the board, staff, and community, which she believes are fundamental to the district's success. Dr. Morris also highlights the significance of team collaboration in achieving the district's goals and addressing challenges.
Dr. Morris identifies safety and staffing as critical current issues for school leaders. She discusses the importance of maintaining a safe environment, noting Olean High School's history as the site of the first school shooting in the U.S. She also addresses the regional staffing shortages and the need to attract and retain quality teachers.
Dr. Morris concludes by discussing the balance between leading improvement and leading change, using the curriculum overhaul as an example of recognizing when fundamental changes are necessary rather than incremental improvements. She believes in empowering her team to make decisions and providing them with the necessary resources and support.
Topic Covered:
Olean City School District Overview: Dr. Morris describes the district's characteristics, emphasizing its small size, rural features, and the supportive team environment.
Leadership Experience: Dr. Morris shares how her extensive background in larger districts prepared her for the superintendency, allowing her to manage the diverse challenges in Olean City School District.
Strategic Plan Focus Areas:
Progressive and Enriching Learning: Efforts to ensure high academic achievement by revising curricula and meeting the diverse needs of students, especially those with disabilities.
Continuous Educator Learning: The importance of professional development to align teaching practices with new curriculum standards and overall educational goals.
Importance of Relationships and Teamwork: The critical role of cultivating strong relationships with the board, staff, and community and the necessity of teamwork in achieving district objectives.
Current Issues for School Leaders:
Safety: Ensuring a safe learning environment, with a historical context of the district's challenges.
Staffing: Addressing the regional teacher shortage and the need to attract and retain qualified educators.
Leading Improvement vs. Leading Change: The distinction between improving existing practices and implementing fundamental changes, illustrated through the district’s curriculum update.
Dr. Morris’s leadership in the Olean City School District exemplifies a strategic and relational approach, focusing on comprehensive student achievement and continuous improvement in teaching practices.

Thursday Jun 20, 2024
Thursday Jun 20, 2024
About Dr. Darren J. Brown-Hall
Dr. Darren J. Brown-Hall was appointed Superintendent of the Williamsville Central School District effective July 1, 2021. He most recently served as the Chief of Staff for the Buffalo Public Schools. He has previously served as the Associate Superintendent for Human Resources, and for a short period of time as Interim Superintendent for the Buffalo Public Schools. Dr. Brown-Hall began his career in education as a Mathematics teacher at Sweet Home High School.Dr. Brown-Hall has over 20 years of experience in the field of Education and works every day to have a significant impact of the lives of students – realizing that every decision that is made at the senior executive level has an immediate effect on the school buildings and the continued increase in academic performance for all children.Realizing his love for education and the impact that he had on students, Dr. Brown-Hall returned to the field of education after working for two years at HSBC Bank as an eBusiness analyst once he finished HSBC’s management development program and working in London.
Dr. Brown-Hall received both a B.S. and M.S. degree in Mathematics Education from Buffalo State College, an M.B.A. from Canisius University with concentrations in Finance and Management Information Systems. Dr. Brown-Hall also completed his coursework for School and District level administrator certification at Canisius University and received an advanced certificate in School Business and Human Resources management from the University at Buffalo (U.B.). Dr. Brown-Hall earned his Doctor of Education degree in Educational Administration from the University at Buffalo in 2018.
Dr. Brown-Hall is an adjunct instructor in the Educational Leadership departments at Buffalo State University as well as the University at Buffalo. He is an active member of several professional organizations including the Committee for the Identification and Development of Educational Leaders (CIDEL) and serves on several Boards including the Western New York Education Service Council (WNYESC), Compass House, and Gay and Lesbian Youth Services.
Podcast Summary
In this episode of the Leaders Learning from Leaders podcast, host Steve Barkley interviews Dr. Darren J. Brown-Hall, Superintendent of the Williamsville Central School District, located in a suburb of Buffalo, New York. Dr. Brown-Hall shares insights from his extensive career in education, highlighting the impact of his previous roles in Buffalo public schools on his current position. He emphasizes the importance of visibility, approachability, and hard work in leadership, and discusses the critical role of senior-level decisions in shaping student outcomes.
Dr. Brown-Hall underscores the significance of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) within the district, stressing the need to create environments where all students and staff feel valued and included. He also touches on the challenge of managing distractions, particularly cell phone use, in the classroom and outlines plans to develop a district-wide policy to address this issue. Additionally, Dr. Brown-Hall speaks to the importance of mentoring and developing future leaders within the education system.
The podcast concludes with Dr. Brown-Hall offering advice to current and aspiring educational leaders, encouraging continuous learning and a positive mindset towards challenging situations.
Topics Covered:
Introduction to Williamsville Central School District: Brown-Hall describes the district's size, diversity, and the number of schools it encompasses. He reflects on his tenure as Superintendent and his enthusiasm for the role.
Impact of Previous Leadership Roles: Brown-Hall explains how his varied leadership experiences in Buffalo prepared him for his current role, providing a comprehensive understanding of school and district administration.
Decision-Making at the Senior Level: The discussion focuses on how decisions made at the superintendent level can significantly influence student learning outcomes and the importance of considering the broader impact of these decisions.
Importance of Visibility, Approachability, and Hard Work: Brown-Hall emphasizes the need for leaders to be visible and approachable, sharing his practices of attending events and meetings to engage with the school community.
Listening with Curiosity: He advocates for listening with curiosity to understand different perspectives, which fosters better communication and decision-making.
Focus on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI): Brown-Hall discusses the district's commitment to DEI, aiming to create an inclusive environment where all students and staff feel a sense of belonging.
Addressing Classroom Distractions: The podcast covers the challenges posed by cell phones in classrooms and the district's plan to develop a consistent policy to minimize distractions and promote effective learning.
Mentoring Future Leaders: Brown-Hall highlights the importance of mentoring aspiring leaders within the education system to ensure quality leadership in the future.
Advice for Current and Aspiring Leaders: He advises educational leaders to keep learning, stay curious, and view challenging situations as opportunities for growth.
Dr. Brown-Hall's insights highlight the multifaceted responsibilities of educational leadership, emphasizing continuous improvement, inclusive practices, and the development of future leaders.

Thursday May 23, 2024
Thursday May 23, 2024
About Dr. Gennaro Piraino, Jr.
Dr. Gennaro R. Piraino, Jr., is the Superintendent of Schools for the Franklin Regional School District. He leads with a strong commitment to academic, artistic, and athletic excellence. He finds great fulfillment in his role, particularly in collaborating with stakeholders and community partners to provide exceptional educational opportunities beyond the traditional classroom setting.
Dr. Piraino champions a school environment that nurtures students’ growth as scholars, artists, athletes, and citizens. His advocacy has significantly transformed the learning landscape for Franklin Regional students. Under his leadership, the district initiated a comprehensive redesign of education, emphasizing the 5Cs: Critical Thinking, Citizenship, Creativity, Collaboration, and Communication. This initiative led to the development of innovative programs and the transformation of learning spaces, including the renovation of Sloan Elementary into the Franklin Regional Primary School and the construction of the Franklin Regional Intermediate School.
These state-of-the-art facilities feature Innovation Centers, STREAM Classrooms, Creative Arts Centers, and Flexible Learning Spaces, providing rich educational experiences. Dr. Piraino also plays a key role in workforce development and community partnerships in Western Pennsylvania, serving as Chairperson of the Westmoreland County Forum for Workforce Development and on the Board of Directors for the Economic Growth Connection of Westmoreland.
Dr. Piraino was recognized for his leadership as the 2019 Pennsylvania Superintendent of the Year and the 2018 Westmoreland Chamber of Commerce Member of the Year. He serves on various boards, including the Pennsylvania School Safety and Security Committee, the American Association of School Administrators Governing Board, and the National Center for Educational Research and Technology.
Dr. Piraino holds a Bachelor of Science in Special Education from Lock Haven University, a Master of Education in Leadership from Saint Francis University, and a Doctorate of Education in Administrative and Policy Studies from the University of Pittsburgh. He resides in Murrysville, PA, with his wife, Carol, and their five children.
Podcast Summary:
In this episode of Leaders Learning from Leaders, Dr. Gennaro Piraino, Superintendent of Franklin Regional School District, shares insights from his extensive career in education. With over a decade of experience as a superintendent and recognition as the 2019 Pennsylvania Superintendent of the Year, Dr. Piraino discusses the impact of his early career on his leadership, the importance of collaboration, and the founding of Educational Leadership and Innovation Consultants (ELI). He emphasizes the need for continuous personal and professional growth and the evolving challenges superintendents face, especially post-COVID. Dr. Piraino also highlights the significance of building strong teams, fostering relationships, and maintaining personal balance. He concludes with advice for aspiring superintendents and the importance of mentorship and networking.
Topics Covered
Early Career Impact: Dr. Piraino discusses how his experience as a learning support teacher and technology integration coach shaped his leadership philosophy, emphasizing the importance of supporting all students in achieving their goals and dreams.
Collaboration and Team Building: Dr. Piraino highlights the importance of collaboration and building interdependent systems within educational institutions. He believes in empowering others and fostering continuous growth among staff at all levels.
Finding and Nurturing Talent: Dr. Piraino elaborates on his approach to hiring and promoting staff who are skilled and committed to continuous learning and growth. He emphasizes the mutual push for improvement between him and his team members.
Founding of Educational Leadership and Innovation Consultants (ELI): Motivated by his wife’s suggestion, Dr. Piraino started ELI to provide executive coaching for superintendents. The initiative focuses on holistic personal and professional development, including health, finance, and organizational leadership.
Superintendent Role Pre- and Post-COVID: Dr. Piraino reflects on the changes in the superintendent role due to the COVID-19 pandemic, noting a shift towards focusing on mental health and personal well-being alongside professional responsibilities.
Challenges and Support for Superintendents: The episode discusses common areas where superintendents seek coaching, such as personal balance and building effective relationships with school boards. Dr. Piraino stresses the importance of not personalizing uninformed criticism and maintaining a supportive network.
Advice for Aspiring Superintendents: Dr. Piraino advises those considering the superintendency to observe current leaders, seek mentorship, and focus on continuous learning at every career stage. He underscores the importance of patience and maximizing each career phase.
Contact Information for Further Engagement: Dr. Piraino provides his district and personal email addresses, inviting listeners to reach out for further discussion or advice.
This episode offers valuable insights into educational leadership, emphasizing the need for continuous growth, collaboration, and personal well-being in effectively managing school districts.
Dr. Piraino welcomes education leaders to reach him directly via email at Gennaro.Perino@gmail.com.